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It’s sad to see the Internet, which was once a great place of freedom and expression, being targeted by many big media instustries who are ill-advising the Government of reports that claims the industry is losing out on billions, and has had nothing to gain from piracy, which have all been proven and reported to false.
This is all in an attempt to pressure the Governemtn to rush through with such rash, careless and unthought out new laws.
The rational behind many pirates comes down to price and availability:
1. Media is far overpriced; the price of 30 music albums would cost you the same price as a flight from London to New York.
2. Availability.
The choice for many in obtaining media the most convenient, fastest and easiest way is BitTorrent.
This method of distrobution brings together communities of music/movie lovers from fair and wide from accross the world.
Just as in the way Facebook has changed the way in which people socialise and come togethert, so has BitTorrent, but the industry does not seem to want to pick up on this:
open a fairly price, legal torrent site and they could well be 3/4 of their way to solving this issue,
With the technologies available today, is there such need of a record label?
The Internet allows for self-advertisement, and is far more powerful than the millions of pounds that is spent my media companies with advertisements, who then take an unfair porition from the artists in return.
Every one acknowledges that humen’s life seems to be expensive, nevertheless some people need money for various issues and not every man gets big sums cash. So to get fast personal loans and student loan will be good way out.
The way in which the music and movie industries is absolutely ridiculous. It would be like if the post office sued Gmail because it is putting them out of business.
The main reasons people pirate are simple:
1. It’s priced too high or they just don’t feel the content is worth the price. Go look on Steam, when I can buy a full game for not much more than a song, you can see why Steam are having no problem making money, yet the music industry claims it’s screwed. 1 pound for a song is too much. I can buy an album on iTunes for about 12 pounds, but I wouldn’t be willing to part for anywhere near that much for an album. It’s simple, they’re overpriced.
2. It’s not available. Simple. If say, a movie is available in the United States of America, but not the United Kingdom, then it’s pretty likely that UK citizens are going to resort to piracy.
Personally I use Spotify for music, and I think this is the kind of thing that the music industry needs to focus on instead. I’m perfectly happy to pay 5 or 10 pounds a month to listen to the music that I like.
What a bogus law.
Music industries make millions, but they still have to target those vunrable.
What about people like me who have wifi running? doesnt it just mean im a potential target?
Also this campaign needs to be advertised more. I just found this site and the petition closing date was 6 June.
The Music companies are losing because of:
1) PRICE – 80p-£1 per song?
2) More independant artists
3) LEGAL Free Music streaming (e.g. LastFM)
Okay, Pirates should be disconnected, but this needs to be proved and run in a court trial.
I am against the DE bill, because I believe it is an invasion of our privacy.
Okay, if you want to download illegaly (which I do not) google “Hide my IP”
Let face it, for the music companies it’s all about profit. So let’s look at the figures, Sony Music Entertainment (which includes RCA and Columbia) had a net income of $5,227m in 2009, which is around a 31% increase on the previous financial year.
So let me get this straight; illegal downloads and file sharing is killing music? sales and profits are dropping? Well the financial facts show otherwise.
Personally, I use ‘Spotify’ to listen to what I want to hear … it doesn’t have everything, but the artists who won’t allow their music to be ‘broadcast’ are missing an audience and potential ticket/CD sales …
@ John Tobin
All ISPs can disconnect users for copyright infringement, it’s in their T&Cs.
That they might now be forced to do so because they are now obliged by law means there is no recourse for the customer under current consumer contract law.
If the ISP`S shut down the internet it is a
breach of contract between the company and the customer which is illegal because if the customer breaks the contract with the company, the company sends a letter to the customer to tell him or her that they have incured charges to pay for the broken contract. Ofcom should look into this because there will be alot of lawsuits against these ISP`s (i.e BT)
Guys… they’re trying to do this in Canada now as well, bowing to the pressure from the US. Help us!!!
They may be shooting themslves in the foot. If you read the smallprint of say MSWord’s license agreement… any materials published or produced using that software is copyrighted by microsoft.
This means that by accepting a liscense you give away your right to copyright… What are all the defence documents produced on?
Use a VPN (like http://www.ipredator.se – the ones you pay for are the best, of course – ) to to encrypt your entire Internet connection, making it impossible to track?
the problem the big corperations dont seem to understand is that they dont need to create these laws they just need to lower their pricing model so they are no longer making 500% and 600% profit margins. most people would be willing to buy more dvd’s and watch movies if the prices dropped. so the only reasion for these laws is sheer corperate greed plain and simple
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ecio0-bP9Y&feature=channel
Thing is, I don’t think its ignorance of human rights just misunderstanding the fact that human rights continue onto the internet.
Humans now integrate so heavily with the internet and digital media in general that the disconnection from the internet could prove catastrophic to their lives and households. People piggyback wifi, if they download from there, then their neighbours connection could be terminated- due to no misdemeanour of their own.
Also, has anyone looked at the average age of the Lords in the House of Lords or just the average age of a government official? They are, by no fault of their own ignorant to the feelings of the current generation towards digital media and content sharing, and new age concepts that shed light on the benefit of an open collaborative society. This bill just proves that something should be done to change copyright- in the other way than this bill tries to achieve.
Digital content should be open to everyone.
This bill constricts creativity; not help it!
Is it just me or are we becoming more communistic in our Government’s obvious ignorance of this countries Civil & Human Right’s ?
When I ask, did we stop being a democracy,
Our Government’s failings include quashing a parent’s right to in any way shape or form discipline our own children, and now we have gang’s of kid’s on street corners and funnily enough being reported to the police who then blame the parents !
Then there is the anti-smoking policy, even non-smokers are sympathizing with the smokers standing in the rain because they are addicted to a form of drug, how about the all new No-one has any right’s policy we have on our internet usage now – High bandwidth users are already punished by ISP’s who now cap their bandwidth (VM) and still send their customers large bandwidth bill’s ! just without the Large Bandwidth !
Now where guilty of copyright theft, until proven innocent of course – those of us who will be lucky enough to be able to hire a lawyer to help us prove it anyway !
Enough – there will be a flood of emigration’s soon and i even know people who have moved abroad when all of this began and i laughed at them saying they where being worry-mongers, now who’s laughing. Not me.
It is very sad that the government wants to invade our homes and check out what we do online.
I believe that every human being has free will and we are supposed to do whatever we want, without being observed.
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First of all TalkTalk well done for being the only ISP to have a backbone and stand up to these idiots who we call our goverment. I very much agree that by even passing this bill it wont solve anything. As the saying goes we theres away theres a will. I’m sadly not with an ISP who has a backbone namely VM. I just find it quite amusing that most fileshares actually spend more money buying movies music and games than legit users. I will be calling my mp in the next 15 mins to air my voice. I guess goverment are doing what they always do NEVER LISTEN. I just dont understand how fileshares are terrorists and drug dealers and so on what planet do the goverment come from pluto i do think lol
Cutting people off wont solve anything, if anything it will make it worse. ppl can get online anyway these days, From libraries to Mobile broadband., I advise everyone to start using VPN to hide there traffic from these Foul people.
Im glad to say i work for this company, it may have had a bad reputation in the past but they arent scared to say fuck off the to the government!
Thank you TalkTalk I’m proud to be a customer!
I fear this will only be the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the government trying to regulate & control the U.K. public en masse as our lives move gradually online.
This foundation act needs ripped up before the government starts to build digital walls on it, otherwise it’s only a matter of time before the British public are being smacked with new cyber backdoor taxes & fines, as the nanny state follows us online.
It would be good if TalkTalk selected a day for the public to protest outside No.10 on every year, seeing as they have the biggest campaign.
I would definitely attend!
@Mitsie
I suggest you change ISP anyway. Based on what i’ve read, Virgin were one of the first ISP’s to embrace this new bill.
how Peter Mandelson has the cheek to talk about people doing anything illegal is beyond me! especially after this scandal (Britain’s government has again been mired in scandal over the £375,000 loan made by multimillionaire Geoffrey Robinson, formerly Labour’s Paymaster General, to his cabinet colleague Peter Mandelson to purchase a Notting Hill residence.) talk about the pot calling the kettle black! what a turkey!!!
I am currently with TalkTalk and very happy with them. I am glad to see them defy our Tyrannical government. Just typical of the government to try and spy on the public. Haven’t they done enough damage to us? I don’t trust our government as far as I can throw them. Just look at the Hollie Greig abuse case. A paedophile ring protected by the government. Disgusting.
Hooray for TalkTalk. Power to the people!!